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Post by bobruk098 on Mar 27, 2012 15:27:56 GMT -5
Name: Bobruk098
Reason: I was banned for griefing redstone wiring.
Why I should be unbanned: I think the mod that banned me was under the impreesion that we were talking about wiring, when we weren't. We were talking about redstone repeaters, which still, I never broke. Maveriknight, the owner of the repeaters, said that moving the time is considered grief. Other players, including me, argued that it wasn't, since technically, it was never removed. I think the mod that banned me came in at the wrong time and didn't understand, so he/she didn't get my side of the story and immediatly banned me.
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Post by Lunair.Blackwind on Mar 27, 2012 15:35:55 GMT -5
Bob, it doesnt matter that you didnt actually break the repeaters, and Alwayz was aware of exactly what you did. its not always a simple matter of setting the repeater back to the original time, as some machines can be entirely wrecked by messing witht he timing of functions. the machine you <3ed with is a delicate on, too. by <3ing with the repeater, you could have cause blocks to get pushed out of alignment, and be wrecked. the entire machine would have been <3ed up. the whole point of the rule is to avoid people's hard work being destroyed or damaged, and you yourself have cause my creations to be wrecked before, in the Old Brimstone Keep, in which case you DID wreck the machine, before news ever tried to repair it.
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Post by pajosftw on Mar 27, 2012 15:37:42 GMT -5
No, I was not under the impression. I understand perfectly what happened. I had witnesses that you messed up the repeaters, and now we have this confession. I double checked with igmikey and since I actually didnt enter this command, I assume he did. You griefed, and according to Maver, were relishing the chance of doing it again.
You destroyed someone's work irreparably. THAT is the definition of grief. Not just breaking blocks, but destroying someone's work. Also, according to Maver, your interference made all his traps malfunction, dumping lava and gravel all over his keep.
Wait your time out, unless you have a side of the story in which you DID NOT ruin an intricate, clever redstone system someone worked hard on. Until then, I hope the admins will respect this reply and leave you to do your time.
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Post by alwayzbored114 on Mar 27, 2012 15:37:49 GMT -5
Thats the thing. Unlike Doors or Trap Doors and such like that, messing with the timing on Redstone Repeaters can screw up the entire machine. Especially on complicated things like Maveri's, one flip of a repeater will completely mess up the timing, thus destroying the machine Figuratively. While no blocks are broken, it later prevents the movement and placement of blocks as specified by the machine. For example, Maveri uses Wall Building Machines. You screwing up the timing on even one repeater will prohibit the later movement/placement of the blocks intended for the wall.
Also, I didnt ask for your side because you admitted to it. I waited for more detail in defense, but all that came out was details of how you did do it.
EDIT: and Pajos, Im the one who gave the final ban
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Post by Lunair.Blackwind on Mar 27, 2012 15:43:00 GMT -5
this is a different occaision pajos. like alwayz said, bob did it again.
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Post by lucavex on Mar 27, 2012 15:54:41 GMT -5
Appeal denied. Wait your time out. This is a major grief.
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Post by deltajesus on Mar 27, 2012 16:46:08 GMT -5
Maybe this should be locked, it allready looks sort of flame wary.w
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Post by alwayzbored114 on Mar 27, 2012 17:06:20 GMT -5
naw, it was only cause the server crashed, so I guess we all jumped on teh forums real quick with the same idea in mind XD
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Post by Lunair.Blackwind on Mar 27, 2012 17:17:24 GMT -5
i've just been lurking.  |
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Post by pajosftw on Mar 27, 2012 17:51:48 GMT -5
Bob, ANY occurence in which you ruin something someone has worked on is grief.
Why would you do that anyway? You knew perfectly well you were destroying Maver's work.
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Post by deltajesus on Mar 27, 2012 18:52:41 GMT -5
I remember when Shezz flooded the repeaters for my 12 block piston door and it took me atleast half an hour to sort the timings out again and that was just to get it so they opened one after another, and the stuff Mac is building is much, much more complex so I do understand that and I do respect that you are above me aoc wise but come on pajos, that was hardly necessary when you've allready posted a response to this and Bob has not replied. (Unless he has deleted his posts in which case I apologise)
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Post by pajosftw on Mar 27, 2012 19:51:25 GMT -5
Sorry, it gets me mad. Ruined redstone systems hits pretty close to home.
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Post by bobruk098 on Mar 27, 2012 20:51:20 GMT -5
Actually, I could care less. I never knew that redstone repeaters were a grief because I was under the impression that destroying blocks was the definition of grief. I wasn't the only one on at the time that thought the same thing. If I DID know, I wouldn't have touched them. But, now I do, so i won't touch the repeaters anymore. And delta, this is my first post.
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Post by Zauberius.Goldfinger on Mar 27, 2012 20:57:22 GMT -5
I dont think moving the time of redstone reapeters is a grief but still it takes alot of time and work making things like these run so i understand why he was banned but i dont think Bob purposely greifed.
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Post by alwayzbored114 on Mar 27, 2012 21:30:41 GMT -5
Zauber, if you actually read the comments we posted, Pajos asked Mikey and he apparently said it was grief. Plus, Lucavex said "This is major grief."
Also, if you read, you would know that Bob has done this multiple times, and has even bragged about it over global. Dont go stumbling into a conversation if you dont know whats going on
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