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Post by Micah Keyshin on Dec 14, 2011 14:01:31 GMT -5
the server will be having a major economy reconstruction. this may include the following things - clearing all player inventories(most likely wont do this)
- reseting everyones account balance
- recieve no starting money
these things have not yet been determined but MAY include them. we know things like this may upset many players but the economy has gotten out of hand. note that this is only a plan and is not being set into action as of yet.
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Post by mattjackson4444 on Dec 14, 2011 17:00:13 GMT -5
In what ways has it gotten out of hand?
if you knew anything about real working economy, then you would understand.
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Post by minerranmore on Dec 14, 2011 17:00:48 GMT -5
pls no that would kill me and my new town
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Post by The_Netherender on Dec 14, 2011 17:06:16 GMT -5
Clearing inventories would be extremely unfair to those of us that have been working had to acquire what little we have. It would set us back a lot of time to reacquire the materials Lucavex and I have busted our backsides gathering and processing. I think a better answer would be to have the staff re-seed the resources that are non-existent in the towns currently established or simply provide server-stocked stores that have lower prices to force privately owned stores to price-match or beat those lowered server-set prices.
On a side note, can we get a list of plugins that we need to download for the server that have been updated?
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Post by Micah Keyshin on Dec 14, 2011 17:30:18 GMT -5
Clearing inventories would be extremely unfair to those of us that have been working had to acquire what little we have. It would set us back a lot of time to reacquire the materials Lucavex and I have busted our backsides gathering and processing. I think a better answer would be to have the staff re-seed the resources that are non-existent in the towns currently established or simply provide server-stocked stores that have lower prices to force privately owned stores to price-match or beat those lowered server-set prices. On a side note, can we get a list of plugins that we need to download for the server that have been updated? there is no plugins you need to update. i have already changed my mind about clearing inventories but the economy will remain reset i think. by the looks of how wealth is distributed and how money grows the base value of our GsD is severely inflated. diamonds used to cost a mere several hundred Gsd and at current standards they are several in the thousand mark. this makes players extremely rich if they sell diamonds. these are not all the reasons. just a slight example
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Post by Micah Keyshin on Dec 14, 2011 17:31:25 GMT -5
pls no that would kill me and my new town your towns will stay, there will be a 1 week grace period for people to regain money. i understand that it will sadden and upset many people, but this was a unanimous decision from the admin team. if the current economy continues it will eventually collapse anyways.
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Post by pajosftw on Dec 14, 2011 17:34:18 GMT -5
what do you mean by grace period?
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Post by pluckers on Dec 14, 2011 17:39:31 GMT -5
Alright ig if you guys think its the right thing to do. I have 1 question though. How do u determine this because i find it very interesting and good to understand if this happens again i can ready myself.
Pluckers
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Post by mattjackson4444 on Dec 14, 2011 17:44:08 GMT -5
Does town bank money get cleared?
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Post by Micah Keyshin on Dec 14, 2011 17:48:50 GMT -5
Alright ig if you guys think its the right thing to do. I have 1 question though. How do u determine this because i find it very interesting and good to understand if this happens again i can ready myself. Pluckers after studying some economics i can see trends, its been a problem ever since early days. ill explain a little. players gain money from either trading or killing monsters. but where does the monster money come from? nothing its not real money this isnt the problem because they dont generate enough cash anyways. next this is starting money, everyplayer who joins the server adds more money to the server via their starter money, where does it come from? its not real its fake money. technically money from trades is also fake HOWEVER it is suppose to be real. in order to get the economy started, we had to generate that starting money maybe too much was spawned or something but it went into the wrong hands. the past market system allowed people to abuse it and dupe items but also sell those items. players got severely rich due to it which is when we changed to the sign system which is more stable. we attempted to lessen the money of such players however it was already too late, players already had the majority of the money (this was before towny was put in) as a trend the economy keeps inflating, players are easily gaining tons of money, and trade is NOT being stimulated. how many people do you see using the trade channel and doing personal trades? no one. everythign is by shop. also prices are stuck at a standard due to shops like krazzie's and magents. these shops are setting examples for people to price their stuff, rather than determining their own prices.
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Post by mattjackson4444 on Dec 14, 2011 17:53:15 GMT -5
IGmikey if people do not spawn with money, and if all money is wiped of existing players. Where will money come from?
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Post by pluckers on Dec 14, 2011 17:54:19 GMT -5
thx for the tips ig it helps me understand i like the sign system kepp us up to date on the server economy situation
Thx Pluckers
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Post by The_Netherender on Dec 14, 2011 18:00:16 GMT -5
I have never gotten any money for killing monsters... was this previously removed for some reason?
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Post by sparkyabc123 on Dec 14, 2011 18:02:24 GMT -5
OK, quick thing my town has over 8000 GsD we use that money to build the town and buy stuff now i think though that we should just trash the chest shops instead of destroy all the stuff that we worked for i worked really hard and only have 1 diamond so instead of ruining the GsD my town has in the bank plz consider just taking away the shops after all this is an RP server unless that has changed and the shops are not RP in my eyes the shops are what ruins the money system not the not the GsD for the shops can have diffrent prices than the other shops so someone can continually make more and more money until they have no inventory space left or the shop they are farming gets full or the shop owner stops the shop or if the shop owner runs out of GsD don't you see that alone proves my theory i hope you see it the way i do i have also talked with another palyer with the same thought.
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Post by mattjackson4444 on Dec 14, 2011 18:11:19 GMT -5
Sparky get on, we need to talk
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